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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:11 am

Wow, Russel really dropped the ball on this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:12 am

You know Sinclair, if you're so mad at him, why'd you give him his camera back?

I think somebody is tsuntsun~
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:11 pm

I actually like the theory in the highest rated comment.

"if you think about totheark's name, to the ark, and the fact that 2 years have gone by, i think totheark is saying that jay has not even gotten close to "the ark" (safest place on earth?). im thinking that the "ark" may be the red tower. I mean jay has only gotten farther and farther away from that, and if you follow the twitter feed, then you would know that someone (TTA probably) posted enttry #37 and jay woke up in his car the next day, near the red tower. TTA is telling jay to go back to it."

What a wonderful idea. I support that.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:16 pm

Unless the red tower has some Alien Geometries, I don't see it ever becoming to important again.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:29 pm

I don't know, I think the fact that Jay did wake up near the red tower could mean it still has some importance. Although that was where they first encountered the Operator I believe (I mean everyone on the MH crew, ignoring that He's apparently been following Alex for quite a while), so maybe it's just the woods that are important.

Ah, I've been forgetting to check the Twitter. I think that probably would pretty much confirm that it's supposed to be referring to the two years since Jay started watching the tapes. Or that could just be what they want us to think.

Gah, I keep thinking up contradictory theories. I should stop now before I hurt myself.


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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:32 pm

Maybe TTA is trying to say that Jay is a Unreliable Narrator? Who knows?

And, yes, I'm a TV Troper.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:38 pm

animalluver202 wrote:
Maybe TTA is trying to say that Jay is a Unreliable Narrator? Who knows?

And, yes, I'm a TV Troper.

Explain..
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:07 pm

Maybe both theories are right. Riddles don't always have just one answer.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:40 pm

TTA is being very direct now...to me it's a bit ont he desperate side that Jay isn't getting the magnitude of the Slender problem? I think the theory made by the highest rated comment has plausability.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:01 am

animalluver202 wrote:
Maybe TTA is trying to say that Jay is a Unreliable Narrator? Who knows?

And, yes, I'm a TV Troper.

TTA established that way back in season 1 around the time of entry 17 and 18, I think.

And no, I'm not a TV Troper?
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:38 am

Well, maybe he's talking about Alex then?
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 8:19 pm

Perhaps TTA being more direct with his videos is saying that Jay is moving too slowly, and telling him to speed up? Jay spending a lot of time looking through these old tapes, and while he does, events are still happening.

And I would just like elaboration at why Tim getting his legs broken a couple months ago has any bearing at him being TTA now. Tim attacked Jay (and maybe possibly Jessica) at the hotel, so he obviously had a full recovery.

Also, if "Time wasted" refers to the time Jay had the tapes, why didn't Masky or Slendy start coming after him until after he started uploading?
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:01 pm

I think the main reason for saying Tim can't be totheark is because of Entry #39 and the 'Forecast' video. Most of us (I think, or at least me) have assumed that totheark was the person who walked by Jay's car, and since it says that was only about a week after Tim got his leg broken, it's very unlikely that that could have been Tim.

As for the you last comment, perhaps Jay wasn't really important or they just didn't care about him until he started uploading the footage and so drew attention to himself. One theory I've come up with is that it might have been Jay's meeting with Tim that drew actually got him into this. As far as we know, nothing was actually happening to Jay before his interview with Tim, it was all after that when he was tipped off about the house and attacked by Masky, so it seems to me that it would make sense somehow.


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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:02 pm

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I think the main reason for saying Tim can't be totheark is because of Entry #39 and the 'Forecast' video. Most of us (I think, or at least me) have assumed that totheark was the person who walked by Jay's car, and since it says that was only about a week after Tim got his leg broken, it's very unlikely that that could have been Tim.

As for the you last comment, perhaps Jay wasn't really important or they just didn't care about him until he started uploading the footage and so drew attention to himself. One theory I've come up with is that it might have been Jay's meeting with Tim that drew actually got him into this. As far as we know, nothing was actually happening to Jay before his interview with Tim, it was all after that when he was tipped off about the house and attacked by Masky, so it seems to me that it would make sense somehow.

But we know Masky is still around NOW. So it's a more possible theory that theres a group of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:04 pm

This is slightly off topic but what happened to Tim??? Were I Jay, the moment I learned who masky was, I would be all over that bit of information, stalking his friends, talking to his parents, visiting his house, like Jay is all known for doing. I'm actually a little disappointed that MH isn't fufilling some of my need to understand the whole picture. This seems like the most opportune time for that sort of business. Instead they're introducing these new puzzles, all LOST like.

Ah well. I'm still engaged enough to keep watching, of course.

Back on a more topical note, I would like to believe that Tim is not TTA for reasons of interest. It seemed apparent that Masky was TTA from the beginning, but as time went on, that seemed less likely. I have to admit that I would perfer TTA to not be masky, though I can't think of any other character that hasn't been firmly disproved of being TTA that I care enough to be excited about.

The changing style would seem to suggest that it's multiple people being TTA (provided it's not just style evolution), but why are they working together and to what end? Some seem helpful, other's seem menacing...?
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:06 pm

Tim appeared remember? In the hotel and chased after Jay. And we know months before he had his leg broken by Alex.

For now we have no idea given Jay is only showing the tapes he found (albeit rather fucking slowly). So we have to assume Masky + Hooded guy are still TTA and are just chasing Jay via Youtube.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:22 pm

I'm a little confused as to how Tim being around now makes any difference to him being Totheark/part of the Totheark group. I guess if him showing up at the hotel is related to Totheark, then probably so, but we don't really have anything to support that yet. Though it does sort of tie into a theory I have, so I'd go along with that, I guess...

Personally, I think the most likely candidates for Totheark at this point are Tim and/or Sinclair. And I still suspect Sinclair is really Jessica. I suppose it is still possible for it to be Alex, but somehow I just doubt it. And any of the other characters would just be kind of random at this point, considering none of them have appeared since season 1.

I don't think Jay would be in any hurry to go getting into things again after what happened in Entry 23, and then when he went after Alex and loses seven months from his memory. I mean, he was investigating things at the hotel but that was because he was already there, , might as well try to figure out how he ended up there. After he got the tapes and fled from Masky though, it seems like he's been trying to lie low and stay on the run. Not that it helps of course, he still disappeared for a couple days, put up 'enttry 37' and woke up back at the red tower.

I actually did have a slightly more concrete reason for why he might not care to stalk/gather info on Tim, but it seems I've lost it...
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Fri Jun 24, 2011 6:33 am

Maybe totheark didn't start coming after Jay about "wasting time" with the tapes because he didn't know Alex left them in his care before. Either, the riddle is could mean either, neither, or both.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:16 am

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I'm a little confused as to how Tim being around now makes any difference to him being Totheark/part of the Totheark group. I guess if him showing up at the hotel is related to Totheark, then probably so, but we don't really have anything to support that yet. Though it does sort of tie into a theory I have, so I'd go along with that, I guess...

Personally, I think the most likely candidates for Totheark at this point are Tim and/or Sinclair. And I still suspect Sinclair is really Jessica. I suppose it is still possible for it to be Alex, but somehow I just doubt it. And any of the other characters would just be kind of random at this point, considering none of them have appeared since season 1.

I don't think Jay would be in any hurry to go getting into things again after what happened in Entry 23, and then when he went after Alex and loses seven months from his memory. I mean, he was investigating things at the hotel but that was because he was already there, , might as well try to figure out how he ended up there. After he got the tapes and fled from Masky though, it seems like he's been trying to lie low and stay on the run. Not that it helps of course, he still disappeared for a couple days, put up 'enttry 37' and woke up back at the red tower.

I actually did have a slightly more concrete reason for why he might not care to stalk/gather info on Tim, but it seems I've lost it...

Well it wasn't ORIGINALLY Tim we know that much (given the entry where we see Tim slumped against the wall and slendy walks past him). It's a good theory to say what's happened is that TTA was originally someone who was controlled by Slenderman, when he ''recruited'' (only word I can think of XD) Tim as Masky it could be possible he became partners with the ''hoody''.

I think the video on TTA where it tells Jay to stop hiding secrets does show Tim is at least in league with TTA (as it shows that Tim had been watching him sleep, so someone would've had to know he'd been there). He could STILL be TTA as the videos have been released NOW and Tim could easily of healed. But had ''hoody'' do all the filming for it?

I guess the pure and sheer puzzle which is TTA will undoubtedly have one heck of a sting in it's ass on who's behind it.

As for your theory on it being Alex I highly doubt that, given Alex has been running from Slenderman it seems farfetched that he'd be the one to follow Jay and freak him out, yet at the same time help him out and try to keep him safe. But again I could be very wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:48 am

I think you misunderstood me. I said it was possible that Alex could be TTA, but I really doubt that he is. If he were, I think it would definitely have to be as just one of a group of people, because I don't think there's any way that Alex could do a lot of this stuff by himself. I do agree with you though that it seems rather unlikely for it to be Alex at this point.

And also, because I'm AR, that was Jay in the video where the Operator walks past him.

And to Roninator: I'm not sure if this is what you were talking about, but it did give me the idea that Tim finding out that Jay had the original MH tapes during the interview is what caused him to start going after him. Of course, that might create a bit of a problem as far as Tim being TTA since the TTA videos started a while before the interview. So if we go by that theory, it would seem that Tim isn't, at least at the beginning, TTA/with TTA.

(Y'know I'm pretty sure I said somewhere I wasn't going to theorize about TTA anymore, that doesn't seem to be working out too well)
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:34 am

It's kinda hard to theorize on TTA.

'cuz he observes what you write then does the opposite |:
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:44 pm

Tim could have found out at any time since MH started before the interview. Tim's first appearance in the present and totheark don't have to be related events.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:47 am

Aeri Tyaelaria wrote:
ChaosGamma wrote:
I think the main reason for saying Tim can't be totheark is because of Entry #39 and the 'Forecast' video. Most of us (I think, or at least me) have assumed that totheark was the person who walked by Jay's car, and since it says that was only about a week after Tim got his leg broken, it's very unlikely that that could have been Tim.

As for the you last comment, perhaps Jay wasn't really important or they just didn't care about him until he started uploading the footage and so drew attention to himself. One theory I've come up with is that it might have been Jay's meeting with Tim that drew actually got him into this. As far as we know, nothing was actually happening to Jay before his interview with Tim, it was all after that when he was tipped off about the house and attacked by Masky, so it seems to me that it would make sense somehow.

But we know Masky is still around NOW. So it's a more possible theory that theres a group of them.
... Uh, what. A group of Maskies or TTA being a group?

And Gamma, you could be onto something there. The MH tapes were filmed a few years before Jay decided to look through them, so the incidents in the tapes were long over with. So from Tim/Masky's viewpoint, no one remembered/knew what happened and the matter was settled. Then Jay comes along asking questions, and now that someone's trying to figure out what exactly happened.

Which would lead him to act as Masky to either keep Jay from diving in deeper and keep him safe(And if Masky = TTA, I'd give a guess that naming the channel ToTheArk was to cryptically lead Jay to some form of safe haven from the "storm"?), or to help The Operator in some way(If Masky =/= TTA, then he would be trying to lure Jay in deeper, giving him hints to go places and find things) for whatever motives?

I think I'm done with speculation for a bit. I want more reveals.
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:24 am

TTA's first response was to entry 9, I think. Tim didn't actually start tackling fucking everything till after he had that interview with Jay in entry 15... If he were TTA, I would think Masky would have shown up a lot earlier.

That's pretty much why I believe Tim is not TTA...

Sorry if I explained that lazily... I'm a bit tired and dizzy at the moment. ashdjkahs
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PostSubject: Re: Memories- TTA   Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:11 pm

I've always thought that TTA was more than one person, not necessarily a cult like Cheshy's theory, but if it is Time he's not acting alone. Think back to Entry #13. Alex has an encounter with Slender Man while Jay is heading back to the car to get more tapes. The TTA response to Entry #13 shows someone filming Jay as he is walking to the car while Alex is having his Slender Encounter, I originally thought it was Tim, but now there are multiple people who would be able to do that. Thing is though, Entry #13 took back in the summer of 2006, the TTA response was only uploaded in 09' Whoever it was held on to that footage for years until the time was right. Could have been Alex, could have been Tim, Could have even been Sinclair. Personally I think it may be all three of them.
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