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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:52 am

MAN, Jay! You're taking quite the levels in bad @$$! That's right! Don't take any of Alex's crap and you get stuff done! I'm with Totheark/the Maskies, Slendy and some people: I think Alex is really going to try and hurt somebody... I don't trust him.



As for the question about how Alex got out of his apartment, either he doesn't remember or something happened... Something bad...
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:59 am

I watched this with a friend who had never seen MH before and she commented "Man, it's like a bad middle-school breakup".

My response: "You have no. idea."



Is anyone else just screaming at Jay to open his baby blues regarding his abusive lover here? Come on, he never calls, he breaks peoples's heads open with bricks...besides, it's all over the rumour mill that he's been making time with a tall, well-dressed gentleman on all those nights that he "forgot" to call you back. Honey, it's ovah. *snap-snap-snap*
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:20 pm

I thought Alex was pretty calm for a situation like this. It doesn't really fit his MO. He never lets Jay walk all over him like that or even usually speak, so this is damn unusual.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:04 pm

I honestly can't believe it took me until this Entry to notice...But Jay STILL isn't that important to Slendy. He's possibly been under Slender Man's control at least twice, and he's always let go when he's served his purpose. Huh...

That aside, I quite liked this new entry, it gave more information, and more confirmation that Alex is falling under The Operator's control.


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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:11 pm

Mr. Jeebles wrote:
I thought Alex was pretty calm for a situation like this. It doesn't really fit his MO. He never lets Jay walk all over him like that or even usually speak, so this is damn unusual.

Perhaps some part of him feels like these are his demons and he alone must deal with them?
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:29 pm

I think Alex mostly wants Jay gone, not much else.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:45 pm

Allan Assiduity wrote:
I think Alex mostly wants Jay gone, not much else.

Could be. I thought Alex was starting to be controlled at first, but going by some of the comments on this thread is leading me to believe that Alex might be trying to force the others (like Jessica and Jay) away so that the Operator doesn't go after them. One could argue that Jay is already being stalked, but Jay was also either waiting for Alex or was with him when he encountered the Operator, so it's possible that if Jay just dropped this completely he might be able to get away.

Perhaps Alex has realized that there's no way out of this, and that's why he's been acting so angry lately? Kind of like someone who realizes they're going to die and wants to blame everyone around them. But Alex doesn't want others to get hurt, so he tries to force Jay away, lie to Jessica... Yeah.

Like Jeebles said, it isn't like Alex to be Jay's bitch for once. Perhaps Alex's motive in this entry was to get Jay to quit helping him so that the Operator wouldn't go after him.

Of course, now that Jay called Jessica and is intending to find Amy, Alex failed.

I hope I made sense in this post.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:18 pm

Finally wound up watching this. Apparently, the A in Alex stands for ANGREH.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:58 pm

And now for an actual constructive-ish post:
I agree it seems unusual for Alex to let Jay do something like that, honestly, after he got his keys back I expected him to flat out attack Jay. Especially with the way Jay taunted him by throwing the keys on the ground, and that comment about keeping his keys in his pocket.
I also agree (though it's probably wishful thinking :/) that Alex might not realize his strange behavior. Still wondering a.) how the hell he got out of the apartment and b.) how the hell he got out of Entry #43. Also, people have mentioned distortion when Alex was angry (which was pretty much all the video) and I haven't noticed it. Can anyone point me to a specific time?
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:30 pm

Hallow Sleeper wrote:
I honestly can't believe it took me until this Entry to notice...But Jay STILL isn't that important to Slendy. He's possibly been under Slender Man's control at least twice, and he's always let go when he's served his purpose. Huh...

That aside, I quite liked this new entry, it gave more information, and more confirmation that Alex is falling under The Operator's control.

That...actually makes me wonder something. We assumed until recentely that Tim/masky was ON Slendy's Side. Now it appears the maskies are against him.

The maskies take more interest in Jay whereas Slendy takes more of an interest in Alex.

Two sides, Two people being used against each other.

Jay's avoided Slendy's primary observation because he's already 'Chosen' by another side perhaps?
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:37 pm

Ther's something that Alex said that kinda strikes a nerve with me.

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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:20 am

Well, we've seen that Jessica must have been friends with Alex, then she met Jay and forgot about him after waking up in the hotel. What I want to see is what
happened to Brian, and if he's involved at all. In the Interview With Tim, Tim
kept saying Brian was close friends with Alex, apparently more so than Jay. And if I remember correctly, Jay went to Brian's house multiple times, and Masky/Tim was in there. Was the hoody character in Entry #45 Brian? I thought it was Jessica at first, just for lack of other notable characters, but now that I think about it, it's a good possibility that it was Brian.

But concerning this entry... there are a lot of comments and posts denying the possibility that Alex is under Slender Man's influence. I'm of the opinion that he is. If he wanted to get rid of Jay and Jessica, he could have just lied about finding Amy to both of them. Also, there's the distortion Alex seems to create when he gets closer to the camera. There's always distortion when Masky appears, and I doubt Slendy just happened to be nearby every time.

Anyway, just my thoughts.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:03 am

Okay, I'm a bit new to these forums, so bear with me here. Has anyone speculated that instead of Slenderman controlling Alex, that perhaps it is the other way around? What if at this point, Slenderman is being controlled BY Alex...to a certain degree of course. Here is my speculation, feel free to criticize it, as I'm sure it is full of holes.

Entry 22, when Alex is talking about how he wishes to burn the tapes, you can see a shadow of a hand go across his face. This of course could mean anything, but I'll get back to this. Entry 26, Jay get's the video with Alex sitting on the couch when Amy brings in his camera. Alex doesn't seem too pleased that she found his old camera. Slenderman appears and she and Alex proceed to jump out the second window. Entry 35, after Alex got stabbed by Masky, there is static, followed by kneecaps. Entry 43, we see Alex walking in the woods, with the intention of finding Slenderman (at least as I see it). Slenderman appears, and Alex get's back up and approaches him (which is why). Entry 45, hoody harrasses Alex, he chases him(?) down, get's tackled by kneecap (my new name for masky), they see something (with distortion) and run away. Alex, seemingly angry at the incident, yells after them. Entry 46, Jay breaks into Alex's apartment, Alex get's mad, Slenderman appears.

My speculation is: What if Alex's emotions are summoning Slenderman? Kind of like the story of the girl whose friends are all being murdered by a supernatural entity, who is actually the manifestation of the anger she feels for that particular friend at a certain time (I think it ends up with her being killed because she's mad at herself for what was happening). Slenderman summons whenever Alex is angry, but at the price of not being able to control his anger.

Further adding to the speculation, although I realize this is quite a reach: In Entry 42, when Alex get's Jay's voicemail, he throws his phone in anger. What are the chances that is the same moment in Entry 40 when Slenderman appears to Jay, and chases him off? Just speculation though, and probably wrong.

I don't at this time have any explanation for the events of Entry 44 that support this theory, and that is probably the biggest hole. The only thing I can possibly come up with is that instead of just control, Slenderman still can directly affect Alex, and still possibly could harm him. Perhaps they are in more of a pact than one having more control over the other? Hole theory, my apologies.

Anyways, let me know what you think, if it holds up, or if it sucks, criticism is appreciated.

P.S. should I have started a new thread for this?
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:43 pm

Ok, so interesting. It seems like Jay and Alex have broken up, at least temporarily. I wonder when he's going to waltz back into the picture? Jay seems to have started to (finally) pick up on the fact that Alex may not be the most trustworthy of Slender-hunting partners.

Interesting note though, Jessica said that she had that she had been seeing Slendy since she was a child, which really, makes her the origin point for this group of people. I know that Tim was showing slender-sickness before anyone else, but timewise, Jessica was the first one affected. Maybe she somehow got Alex? Although granted there is that birthday video...
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:03 pm

Well, the anger = Slendy appearance has been speculated about if I'm correct, but I wouldn't say it's summoning him. I'd say it's attracting him, though. I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think that #42 Alex throwing phone = Slendy appearance for Jay, so I pretty much agree with your theory there.
I also agree about the Maskies originally only tracking Jay down, but attacking Alex as well after he broke TiMasky's leg.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:01 am

@ Tiro1000- We've touched on this a few times in other threads that I refuse to spend time looking up to link.
Most of us think that by making Slenderman, summonable, this cheapens his scary factor. It's the idea that he can be controlled in some way that ruins the spooky. It also can give him some kind of motivation, mindless as it is, and do the prior yet again.
But since I am the queen of crappy theories, (not that yours is crappy, I'm just reiterating that mine usually are) I could see how someone would be lead to that conclusion by JUST looking at those videos you listed. But when you put the whole picture together. The idea that Slenderman is Alex's anger puppet becomes less likely.
Just look at the first 12 entries. Or for that matter Entry #26, where he seems to be all kinds of calm and happy with Amy and then BOOM, Slenderman.
The theory that Alex is a slenderpuppet is more likely. But the recent videos, have been really pushing that idea hard. And lately I've been wondering how much we are being lead to believe and what is actually happening to the characters.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:06 am

Well, like others have said, I doubt Slendy is actually being 'summoned'. It's more likely that in a moment of weakness, like getting angry, he can appear more easily.

That's my thesis, anyways.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:40 am

Once again, someone has said what I wanted to say in a more concise and understandable manner than I.
I really need to get a hang of this forum nonsense.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:58 pm

Lol you mad bro much ? XD .. Well this is going to be interesting the next few posts.. SHITS GONNA GO DOWN .. well again . WEw cant wait
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:10 am

They just need a really good couple's therapist.

A really...really good couple's therapist.

Maybe that's all Slendy really is.

Either that or he's the other woman, I haven't really decided which is funnier.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:48 am

CheckersValentine wrote:
They just need a really good couple's therapist.

A really...really good couple's therapist.

Maybe that's all Slendy really is.

Either that or he's the other woman, I haven't really decided which is funnier.
Clearly he's Cupid. He just uses tentacles instead of arrows.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:16 pm

Happycupcakes wrote:
Lol you mad bro much ? XD .. Well this is going to be interesting the next few posts.. SHITS GONNA GO DOWN .. well again . WEw cant wait

What the fuck did I just read? You do realize this contributes nothing to the conversation. Try to actually join in on the conversations next time, instead of... this...
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:56 am

I don't think this warrents it's own thread, and I hope that this post belongs here.

Jay recently stated on his twitter that he has been having trouble sleeping again. Much more than usual. I wonder if this means he's getting closer to the truth.

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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:21 pm

The disonnance between Jay and Alex is really irking me. I want them to work together, very badly. But at the dame time, the path they have chosen to go makes far more sense. So instead of feeling like they are screwing this up by being pissed at each other, I am more... Tense. Also, (and I did not read the last four pages so I dont know if this was mentioned) There does not seem to be a reason for the footage from the safe to be from masky, unless for some ridiculous reason he is trying to help.

More likely and obviously, Jay had been putting the footage in the safe for himself anticipating memory loss. Given this fact, He ALREADY knew Jessica's number before the blackout and has fixated on it for some reason when he chose it for the combination. Why he would save and not upload during this time is an obvious dilemma. I am getting more and more suspicious of Alex, as is everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Entry 47 Discussion    Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:09 am

That brofight was like every breakup I had when I was a freshman, jeez. I got the feeling that Alex was more worried for Jay than upset with him. I think he knows he's slowly being controlled and he's fighting it and trying to push Jay away to avoid getting him more involved than he already is. Knowing Jay, though, he'll be too stubborn to give up and just get himself into more trouble. He's already implied that something bad has happened to Jessica as a result of his stubborn-ness. I don't really know what to think about Masky, all I know is that he's definitely not on Slendy's side. Did you see how he ran in Entry 46 when they lured Alex into the woods & Slendy showed up? Not exactly a display of camaraderie.
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