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PostSubject: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:46 pm

I wasn't going to say anything publicly, but Ive been browsing through what some people have been saying, so I felt the need.
First and foremost, I need to say whatever anger or animosity I had with some of the previous mods as far as I'm concerned is gone as of a few days ago. Its said, its done, and this is not meant to offend anyone. At all. Ever. I do not want to ruin the apologies I stated a few days ago.
That being said, hi. My name is Rachel. Some of you may not know me because...well, I've been kind of scared to post here. I have known damn good and well that I could post here if I really wanted to. However, I discovered that my name upset one or more people. That is neither here nor there now, since that is all cleared up. However, it didn't change the fact that I did feel like I shouldn't post here. I especially felt that after a certain podcast, which that's a whole different story.
What I'm trying to say here is this: I am a creator. I knew I could post here, but who wants to go to a place where they feel nobody wants them around? That's just how I felt. I realize I could have done whatever I wanted and people could have just rolled their eyes at me. That's fine. But I feel like I shouldn't have, so I didn't.
I just felt the need to defend myself and maybe some other creators who feel the same. I'm not sure.

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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:48 pm

You are completely safe to post wherever and whenever you want. This forum is creator friendly as well as fan friendly.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:56 pm

Thanks. Like I said, I knew I could have before but I didn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable. But either way I probably would have came back around this time. I just wanted to say my piece, really. I just wish it could all be different, but eh. What can ya do?

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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:57 pm

Doctor, could you enlighten me please? What are 'Creators', and why is it now they're cropping up around there seems to be a class divide developing?
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:06 pm

The Creators are the people who make the videos, or write the blogs, or make the games that everyone enjoys. They're cropping up now because they feel comfortable doing so. Before, they knew that the former staff did not take kindly to them, thinking them elitists. As for the class divide, there is none, I assure you. The creators will be subject to the same rules as everyone and be disciplined, if need be, just as any other user would be if they broke rules.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:12 pm

Yes, I agree, there is no class divide. I used to love coming on here and talking to people. Even making friends with the people who watched my series. No one's better than anyone else... creator, fan, admin, whoever.

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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:26 pm

Yes, let's be very clear about that. There is nothing special about creators, other than that we have our own chats elsewhere (but so does everyone else), which are SUPPOSED to be to discuss video making, but more often they devolve into derp.

Slendernation is different from Unforum in one major way: Creators can shamelessly self-plug all they want. But if they don't want to be here, they won't do that, and all you lovely fans won't get to see new content as often.

Speaking of which, there's going to be some changes to how that bit is handled, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:47 pm

Well of course they're not special. They didn't really create anything, they produced something based on pictures someone else made. That's not a stab at creators btw, I'm just being a bit pedantic.

Honestly I never understood why people would see the creators as a separate group.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:54 pm

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Well of course they're not special. They didn't really create anything, they produced something based on pictures someone else made. That's not a stab at creators btw, I'm just being a bit pedantic.

Honestly I never understood why people would see the creators as a separate group.


That's like saying construction crews aren't builders because the architect drew a picture of it first.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:02 pm

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Well of course they're not special. They didn't really create anything, they produced something based on pictures someone else made. That's not a stab at creators btw, I'm just being a bit pedantic.

Honestly I never understood why people would see the creators as a separate group.

I agree with Doc, of course, however, the creators literally ARE a separate group. We have... well, several groups, skype chats and tinychats, and we all know each other really well now.

I have never seen any reason why the creators and the fans shouldn't be able to talk more directly, if they really want to ruin their immersion.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:59 pm

The creators are several separate groups, really.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:14 pm

Anybody can become a creator, too. There's no elitism involved.


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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:22 pm

Lumine wrote:
Anybody cane become a creator, too. There's no elitism involved.

You're funny, Lumine.

As for this post, creators are people who wrote/recorded/what have you. But simply people all the same. I think we could all do to with remembering that and HI RACHEL. :-) Welcome back.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:24 pm

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The creators are several separate groups, really.

And sometimes, even several warring factions. Drama in the 'verse is nothing new, and won't go away until people just start talking to each other when they're upset about something. Instead, people clam up and don't get anything done.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:56 pm

Rach, I wish that Podcast didn't exist at all. dx
But yeah, you don't really have to worry too much about it now. I've even been lurking around here more.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:55 pm

Hi, Armada. =D Thank you, its good to be back.
Also, I have to agree with Lumine. Creators can be viewers, viewers can be creators...there's no difference. At all. We're all people. As to anyone who thinks that there is a "class divide" or this is going to turn into another creator's group... Well, I like proving people wrong. Its fun. There's not enough room for a high horse on this website. xD

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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:13 pm

Glad you think so. I was starting to worry us lowly common folk would get left out in the cold. (Dramatic hand to forehead)
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:22 pm

lol, nahh. That is not an issue.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:47 pm

The entirety of the verse thinks this about each other. Everyone always thinks that the other side is incredibly elitist. I have been in every group at some point or another, and it's just not true.

CNS is not elitist
The Creators Group on FB is not elitist (harmless joking aside, they really arent')
The OTHER Creators Group is not elitist
MyImmersion is not elitist (except maybe when people are shamming too much)
SlenderNation is not elitist.

Perceptions like this keep getting made because of the forming of cliques, which aren't necessarily bad. It's okay to be exclusive with who you spend your time with. Some people prefer that. Me? I will hang out with anyone ever and just be really chill with them. It takes a LOT for me to not like someone, and even then, I'll still hang out with them in a group of people.

Allow me to share a story.

The first time I went into TC, the creators of EMH and TT were in there. I FREAKED. I just sat in my little quiet corner and chilled for a bit. I didn't think they'd be at all interested in me. Then, I decided to try talking.

Fast forward to the first time I went down to Jersey, the door opened, and Jeff shouted, "Maya!!" and hugged me, and then we all crashed around a campfire and told stories. And I don't even really go into TC much these days. It's just that just about everyone I've met in the Slenderverse is mad chill and doesn't give two craps whether you've produced a story or not. The viewers are every bit as important, because without viewers, who are we making videos for?
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:46 pm

Might I also add, all of these complaints sound so retarded in retrospect. The melodrama on the matter is exceeding. Yeah, it's a big deal, but what in god's name makes you stoop to the likes of a 12 year old who was just given his first laptop?
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:56 pm

Lumine wrote:
Might I also add, all of these complaints sound so retarded in retrospect. The melodrama on the matter is exceeding. Yeah, it's a big deal, but what in god's name makes you stoop to the likes of a 12 year old who was just given his first laptop?
Hindsight is a beautiful thing isn't it? And Doctor, I'm sorry if I ever came across as antagonising, I didn't mean too.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:09 pm

No need to apologize at all! Tensions and stress have been high, I hold no grudges.
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PostSubject: Re: Okay, well...   Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:13 pm

You know what you've just walked in to dont you?
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