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PostSubject: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:43 pm

Finally decided to check this one out the other day. I enjoyed it and it seems to be one of the better slendervlogs out there right now but with so many comparing it to Everyman HYBRID and Tribe Twelve was I the only one who found it to be a bit overrated?
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:51 pm

Eh. I was extremely excited about MLAnderson0 when it first started. It was unique and interesting and the acting was, at the time, one of the best out there. However...in recent entries, it's started to feel like it's one guy, who really, really want's to be in a series and his friends who are just kinda doing what he wants.

There's still some good acting and some great ideas, but Michael/Patrick is extremely hollywood crazy, which I'm not a fan of, and I feel like the series has started to sputter. There are just so many monologues...

I still really like MLAnderson0, but it's not my favorite. I think it's worth it's salt for the interest factor, in that they are really trying some stuff that we haven't seen from anybody yet, and the acting is still far and away better than most other series have to offer. I just wish it would get back to it's roots a little. I'm starting to get bored by patrick's rambling entries. They need to show us he's crazy, rather than tell us so much.

But, nah, I think it's still up there. For the record I'm critical of Tribetwelve too.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:28 am

Personally, Tribe Twelve might be my favorite series other than Marble Hornets (I actually probably like EMH better than TT overall, but with three Youtube channels, three Twitter accounts, a blog and a Ustream to follow now, it seems really inaccessible all of a sudden and lately EMH has been more confusing than fun for me). My only real problem with Tribe Twelve was that it jumped into the action WAY too quickly for me. What aspects of it are you critical of?
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:15 am

In Tribes? Oh, several things. Mostly the acting really gets me, and the swearing as well. Not because he's swearing, God knows I have a mouth like a sailor, but because it eleminates a lot of the build up tension. When you are swearing up a storm at the beginning of the scare, there's nowhere for the character to vocally go that expresses his fear. I dunno, it's a little tough to explain. I also have problems in that I'm not super engaged in his story. There's a bit of a mystery, but not enough to engage me.

I like tribes a lot more than I used to. I think Adam has made some valid attempts to improve and the last few entries have engrossed me far more than it has in the past. But it's still not my favorite series.

I agree with you on the EMH front too. I LOVE that it's trying to be a really immersive ARG with a story and so on, but it's gotten to a point that's just ridiculous. Unless you are obssesively following the story, and have been from the beginning, there's this constant sense that you're missing something. I think series like Caughtnotsleeping handle this sort of thing far better.

The big things for me in a slenderseries; 1: I need to care about the character. Big one. 90% of real horror doesn't work if you aren't engaged in the character, otherwise you don't fucking care what happens to them.

2. I need some acting. I really do. ACT. It's not that hard. Don't deliver monotone lines, and then dry-crying when something scary happens. It just makes me want you to die.

3. mystery. I need something I can get engaged in, or think about, and theorize on. Pull me into the story.

(Back on topic) MLAnderson gets like, eh, three stars from me because It does a fairly good job of introducing you to the characters and getting to know them. The acting is GREAT, followed by meh-cliche. And the mystery is fair-to-middling.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:07 am

I've never looked into MLAndersen0 so I wouldn't know.

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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:29 am

You know, Checkers, now that I think about it I agree with you on the swearing thing for Tribe Twelve and to an extent the acting complaint although I find the acting passable. But the story was unique enough to keep me watching and I liked the fact that their Slendy was more aggressive than in most series (I enjoyed it simply as something new, I have always preferred a more subtle approach to Slendy). And I completely agree with you on the last two points on what a good slendervlog needs. However while I understand the reasoning for the the first point, I myself like to think of Slendy as belonging more to the Lovecraftian genre of Horror ,where characterization is noticeably weaker, than any other subgenre. I definitely agree that there were some huge cliches in MLAndersen along with some of what was in my mind just plain old cheesiness later on in the series. When 'Patrick' first showed up I just about gave up on the series. It also seems (to me at least) like whoever is writing MLA doesn't seem to have a very clear idea of where he is going with series plotwise.

And Slender Man, I would reccomend checking MLAndersen0 out just don't buy into the hype too much or you'll be disappointed.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:03 am

I quite liked MLAnderson0. Not my favourite but, not a bad one at all.

But, I would say it is overrated, but only because there are a few other vlogs which get hardly any attention, despite being as good or better than MLAnderson0.

The Dead are Watching is fantastic, one of my favourites and needs more love!
5zer02 and TJAProjects was great, as are Caughtnotsleeping and DarkHarvest00.

So maybe its overrated, maybe others are underrated.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:18 am

I really enjoyed Dark Harvest an Caught Not Sleeping. I haven't got around to watching The Dead Are Watching yet (except for the first video where I was quite disappointed that they used the Necronomicon) but I'vee heard good things and I've got them all lined up in a handy playlist.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:37 pm

I think what's really happened is that when MLA first started everyone was really impressed by it. The story was different, the acting was i think the best we'd seen, and their Slenderman came into direct contact with the protagonist, which was new. It sort of hit a high point when Patrick was first introduced because he was SO different than anything we'd seen so far. And then it just got boring. The videos had less action, less tension, more of Patrick just sort of being a dick and not doing anything to advance the plot. It feels like it's gotten stale.

So, yeah. I don't feel like it was overrated at first, but it's lost a lot of the magic along the way.


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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:07 am

If anything, I'd say it's underrated. I'm thoroughly impressed with it, and though it isn't Marble Hornets or anything, I'd say it's watchability surpasses EMH and or T12 at times.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:13 am

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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:41 am

^dude, chill, I'm pretty sure Xuch didn't mean that as a personal attack or anything. V_V

On topic now:
MLA, when it first started, was amongst my top five or so fave vlogs, but, I've honestly had kinda a hard time staying interested the past few videos. It just doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and maybe I am impatient but it just seems to be dragging along in such a way that I'm losing focus.

Does that mean I think it's overrated? No, not really. I think it's pretty well done, good acting, unique storyline. If you don't like it that's fine, that just means it's not your slice o' cake, but I wouldn't go so far as to say overrated.

Also it's definitely not underrated. It has generated looottss of attention and praise. It even has it's own subforum here and that's saying something. I can't possibly see how it could qualify as underrated.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:10 pm

Wow. Um. It's not like she said "I'M GOING TO EAT YOUR CHILDREN BECAUSE I FUCKING HATE YOUR SERIES" or anything. Just because one person is critical of your series does not mean everyone else in the Slenderverse is about to shit all over it.

And I'm really not sure what you mean about "popular" kids on this forum. It's just as cliquey as anywhere else, Slender Nation isn't one massive anthill hivemind as I'm sure some people like to think.

Anyways, people are allowed not to like things. People are allowed to express that one series is not to their specific taste. Just because one person is not a fan of your work, that does not mean it's a personal attack on you.

As I see it, this thread was intended for discussion of series and peoples' opinions on them. Now I'm usually willing to give most series a try, taking into consideration what has been recommended to me and what I've heard about them, but as it is, now I'm unlikely to ever watch TDAW based solely on your response. I have no desire to further fuel an ego that lashes out so wildly at one noncommittal comment. That's a huge overreaction. I understand wanting to be validated for one's work, but refusing to hear any differing opinions or anything less than a glowing review is just childish and ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:20 am

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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:45 pm

I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or anything, i'm just not a fan. I shouldn't have even brought it up, i know, but i had just watched it and it was fresh in my mind, and also i'm really stupid. Anyway. Whoo. Sorry to derail the thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:53 pm

XuchilVith wrote:
I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings or anything, i'm just not a fan. I shouldn't have even brought it up, i know, but i had just watched it and it was fresh in my mind, and also i'm really stupid. Anyway. Whoo. Sorry to derail the thread.

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Thank you, but you are not stupid. You are truly very mature and sensible. If you were any less then I am sure you could have easily rallied people against me and ended my place here. Also I am the one who derailed the thread. Sorry all.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Tue May 28, 2013 6:28 pm

I think this series is awesome. It is a clear nr. 2 for me and at times it beats Marble Hornets as well. The thing that makes it unique is, that it is not so busy trying to convince us that what we are seeing is in fact real, but rather chooses to immerse us in the story to the point that we start not caring about weather this or that shot is realistically how you would document this kind of event. So in a way it is much closer to fiction than the other series, which take a more pure cinema verite style.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Tue May 28, 2013 7:17 pm

I think MLAndersen0 is... Okay.

I'm perhaps in the unusual position of being a fan of the mythos but not actually liking a lot of the material within it. I don't read any blogs now because when I tried most of them were awful. As for video series, only a very small few are what I would call quality.

MLAndersen0 has good acting, and in the beginning I was very interested in its story and visuals. But it quickly fizzled out for me, I kept watching hoping it would pick up again, but it has yet to do so, and there were some rather bad moments. I feel like Patrick should never have been introduced.

I suppose whether it is under/over-rated depends on where you look. Some people give it rave reviews, others are a bit mixed, and some will hate it for whatever reason. I would say in the end MLAndersen0 probably gets what it deserves in terms of attention. If it starts picking up again, it will probably get more. Slenderverse fans don't tend to be so stupid that they pass around vlog series that are no good to their friends.
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PostSubject: Re: Is MLAndersen0 Overrated?   Tue May 28, 2013 8:37 pm

Yes, it is VERY overrated. I mean, the series is decent, but not good enough for the top 5. That's just my opinion though :p
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