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Mr. Jeebles
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| Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion  Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:48 pm | |
|  I'm pretty sure it's Slendy, as for whoever said there was no distortion, that was the extreme blurriness. As Hellebore said he was too nonchalant, he's always been like that. In Entry #9(I think) when he peers into Alex's bed as he's sleeping and slowly pushes the door open, he's always moved with that style. In the picture I even outlined the shtuffs I saw on him. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:34 pm | |
| Rythmear's theory is now my favourite theory. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:44 pm | |
| Dammit I swear I can make out the suit, but I can't get a screencap of the right moment to see it clearly (well, as clear as possible).
Yeah, I know the blurriness is suppposed to be the distortion here, I would mention this as an exception to what I came up with above. I don't know, it was just a thought I had that I just started rambling about.
Do like Rythmear's theory, though I think it's far more likely Slendy just isn't actually interested in Jay, he was trying to use Jay to find Alex and now he shows up because Jay and Alex are working together(working together doesn't sound exactly right, but I can't think of a beter way to say it right now). He had Jay put at the hotel for some reason related to something that happened over the seven months, though I can't really imagine for what purpose that would be. | |
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SliceandDice
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 4:58 pm | |
| Rythmear confirmed for most ballin' theory ever. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| - Rythmear wrote:
- lotsa textghetti
So, does this mean that - Spoiler:
Slendy is trying to use Alex
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Rythmear
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:57 pm | |
| - Empty wrote:
- Rythmear wrote:
- lotsa textghetti
So, does this mean that - Spoiler:
Slendy is trying to use Alex
? Possibly - but - Spoiler:
if you recall, Alex wakes up there with blood smeared all over his face - the Slender Man did try and do something to him, it's not certain what - but it clearly wasn't pleasant...
As for MadameMiz - if anything, I'd be more inclined to think that - - Spoiler:
Masky is more aggressive towards Alex and Jay than the Operator/Slender Man is... At no point so-far has it actually been confirmed that Masky and the Slender Operator work together - they both seem to be involved, but they're never Seen together, and it's pure speculation by the fandom that they are together. Admittedly, it's more than likely that it's the case - but Masky seems to have some form of individuality, even if his mind is royally screwed up. After all, the Slender Man has never once actually made an aggressive move against Jay - where Masky has. If the Slender Man really was controlling Masky, you would think he would be able to influence him Not to try and murder his best lead. Masky after all could be perfectly justified in going after Jay and Alex, seeing as the two of them busted his leg in... He has certainly come a long way from his 'watching' of entry #19, to these barreling assaults.
And finally - to ChaosGamma... - Spoiler:
If the above theory was true, and Masky is indeed NOT working entirely with the Slender Man... then is it not possible that he was put up in the hotel by the Slender Man to keep him away from Masky? After all - I'm going to take a gamble on the fact that, benevolent or malevolent, having Tim's leg broken was Not part of the Slender Man's plans - if indeed he had any for him at all. It's pretty significant that as soon as Jay regains his mental state and posts videos of his location, he is shortly after tracked down and attacked by Masky. Prepare for a total departure from reality - but Jessica is never explained... we don't know what happened to her - if she's alive, dead, whatever - what we Do know is this:
The Operator left a combination code for Jay's safe, which contained all his potentially memory-recovering information.
Shortly before that, there was heavy distortion on the tape - which typically indicates the presence of our tall and slender friend.
Those exposed to the Slender Man have been known to wake up with no short-term or indeed Long-Term memory, far away from where they were - but never in dangerous places... And it's surely no co-incidence that Jessica and Jay were in adjacent rooms in a mostly empty hotel in the middle of no-where.
Moments after this information about Jay's safe is relayed to him - Masky arrives on the scene and attempts to lay some hurt on Jay - having come through Jessica's room to get there.
So what does this point to in my mind? Jay is the narrator of Marble Hornets, certainly - but he's not the protagonist - nor is he the most important played on the board... he's just our eyes in this matter, and those eyes are pretty blurry. Masky enters Jessica's room first... and she vanishes before Jay does. And let's face it, the only reason Jay was sticking around was the mystery of the safe.
What if the Operator spirited away Jessica - not to kill or maim her, but to get her away from Masky? Upon the videos going live, it was only a matter of time before Masky tracked them down - and the Operator could only wait so long for Jay and Jessica to work eachother out... but time was running out fast, and at the last minute before Masky arrives, the Operator whisks her away. Perhaps he intended to steal them both, but there was less time than he thought, and he only had time to leave Jay with the combination for his tapes - the only reason he was still there. He wanted Jay to get the tapes and get the hell out of there, because he didn't have enough time to take Jessica and come back for him.
Which begs the question - why Jessica? Why take her first? Was it simply a matter of Jay being physically stronger, and thus more likely to fend off Masky... or is it because Jessica is far more important than Jay in the long run - because of some unknown connection between her and Alex. There aren't enough clues yet to paint a broader picture - but it can't be a co-incidence that they wound up in the same place.
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:26 pm | |
| - SliceandDice wrote:
- It wasn't HIM though. And it didn't really look like Masky...
I wasnt Implying Masky, I was more towards Slender, The tie, the sound cut out, the weird walk. Masky wouldve tried to tackle the car and knocked himself out! | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:00 am | |
| I want to say it was Slendy... I see it perfectly. I just... why... shdksdhk The way he saunters by just seems so human I don't really want to accept that it is. But maybe that's cause I'm still not used to actually seeing him do much more than stand there and head tilt. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:20 am | |
| - bilo wrote:
- I want to say it was Slendy... I see it perfectly. I just... why... shdksdhk The way he saunters by just seems so human I don't really want to accept that it is. But maybe that's cause I'm still not used to actually seeing him do much more than stand there and head tilt.
That's why he's Slender-Man, not Slender-Xenomorph. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:02 pm | |
| Moves way too human like for Slendy but I can't see it as being anyone unless Alex put on a suit and tie to troll/scare the everloving fuck out of Jay. | |
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ChaosGamma
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:44 pm | |
| - Rythmear wrote:
- Empty wrote:
- Rythmear wrote:
- lotsa textghetti
So, does this mean that - Spoiler:
Slendy is trying to use Alex
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Possibly - but - Spoiler:
if you recall, Alex wakes up there with blood smeared all over his face - the Slender Man did try and do something to him, it's not certain what - but it clearly wasn't pleasant...
As for MadameMiz - if anything, I'd be more inclined to think that - - Spoiler:
Masky is more aggressive towards Alex and Jay than the Operator/Slender Man is... At no point so-far has it actually been confirmed that Masky and the Slender Operator work together - they both seem to be involved, but they're never Seen together, and it's pure speculation by the fandom that they are together. Admittedly, it's more than likely that it's the case - but Masky seems to have some form of individuality, even if his mind is royally screwed up. After all, the Slender Man has never once actually made an aggressive move against Jay - where Masky has. If the Slender Man really was controlling Masky, you would think he would be able to influence him Not to try and murder his best lead. Masky after all could be perfectly justified in going after Jay and Alex, seeing as the two of them busted his leg in... He has certainly come a long way from his 'watching' of entry #19, to these barreling assaults.
And finally - to ChaosGamma... - Spoiler:
If the above theory was true, and Masky is indeed NOT working entirely with the Slender Man... then is it not possible that he was put up in the hotel by the Slender Man to keep him away from Masky? After all - I'm going to take a gamble on the fact that, benevolent or malevolent, having Tim's leg broken was Not part of the Slender Man's plans - if indeed he had any for him at all. It's pretty significant that as soon as Jay regains his mental state and posts videos of his location, he is shortly after tracked down and attacked by Masky. Prepare for a total departure from reality - but Jessica is never explained... we don't know what happened to her - if she's alive, dead, whatever - what we Do know is this:
The Operator left a combination code for Jay's safe, which contained all his potentially memory-recovering information.
Shortly before that, there was heavy distortion on the tape - which typically indicates the presence of our tall and slender friend.
Those exposed to the Slender Man have been known to wake up with no short-term or indeed Long-Term memory, far away from where they were - but never in dangerous places... And it's surely no co-incidence that Jessica and Jay were in adjacent rooms in a mostly empty hotel in the middle of no-where.
Moments after this information about Jay's safe is relayed to him - Masky arrives on the scene and attempts to lay some hurt on Jay - having come through Jessica's room to get there.
So what does this point to in my mind? Jay is the narrator of Marble Hornets, certainly - but he's not the protagonist - nor is he the most important played on the board... he's just our eyes in this matter, and those eyes are pretty blurry. Masky enters Jessica's room first... and she vanishes before Jay does. And let's face it, the only reason Jay was sticking around was the mystery of the safe.
What if the Operator spirited away Jessica - not to kill or maim her, but to get her away from Masky? Upon the videos going live, it was only a matter of time before Masky tracked them down - and the Operator could only wait so long for Jay and Jessica to work eachother out... but time was running out fast, and at the last minute before Masky arrives, the Operator whisks her away. Perhaps he intended to steal them both, but there was less time than he thought, and he only had time to leave Jay with the combination for his tapes - the only reason he was still there. He wanted Jay to get the tapes and get the hell out of there, because he didn't have enough time to take Jessica and come back for him.
Which begs the question - why Jessica? Why take her first? Was it simply a matter of Jay being physically stronger, and thus more likely to fend off Masky... or is it because Jessica is far more important than Jay in the long run - because of some unknown connection between her and Alex. There aren't enough clues yet to paint a broader picture - but it can't be a co-incidence that they wound up in the same place.
You know I'm actually beginning to think there could be something to this theory. Regarding your last point there the first thing I thought of was that Slendy may have let Jay go since he actually has some idea about what's going on (not very much, but still), and yes probably would be more likely to fight off Masky. He might be able to figure shit out quicker since Jessica didn't really have any idea at all what was happening. It's also possible he actually wants somebody keeping a record of stuff, for whatever reason, and of course Jay would be sure to continue posting everything that happens. I'm rather confused though about what you're saying about the safe. Did Slendy leave the combination there for Jay? If the Operator wanted Jay to have the tapes why wouldn't he have just let him find it earlier and not wait until it was almost too late? Something I've just thought of though: all three of them (Alex, Operator, Tim/Masky) are actually kind of the villains. They're all fighting against each other for whatever and Jay is just kind of caught in the middle of it all. Tim and Alex are both trying to use Jay to further whatever their own goals are, the Operator doesn't really care too much about Jay, so long he doesn't get too close to something He doesn't want him to see. That could fit in with Jay seeing the Operator in Entry 23, because he was getting in too close to something Slendy didn't want him to see (and possibly also with wherever he was in Entry 29). I'm going to try to come up with more for this... Wait a minute. It just occurred to me. - Spoiler:
Totheark is Rocky. That's right, Alex's dog. That's why he just disappeared. And he's totally the mastermind behind everything, including the Operator. It all makes sense now.
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:45 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
- Spoiler:
Totheark is Rocky. That's right, Alex's dog. That's why he just disappeared. And he's totally the mastermind behind everything, including the Operator. It all makes sense now.
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:08 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
I'm rather confused though about what you're saying about the safe. Did Slendy leave the combination there for Jay? If the Operator wanted Jay to have the tapes why wouldn't he have just let him find it earlier and not wait until it was almost too late? Because he knew that the only real reason Jay was sticking around at the hotel and not wandering off to find more familiar ground was the safe in his room, and his obsession with trying to get it open. For whatever reason, I suspect he wanted Jay to talk with Jessica, to work something our - or perhaps figure something out. He could only let him have the tapes back once he was ready to let him leave. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:30 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
- Spoiler:
Totheark is Rocky. That's right, Alex's dog. That's why he just disappeared. And he's totally the mastermind behind everything, including the Operator. It all makes sense now.
The face of evil:  Also, It just occurred to me that totheark never posted a response to Entry 38. | |
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ChaosGamma
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:23 pm | |
| - Rythmear wrote:
- ChaosGamma wrote:
I'm rather confused though about what you're saying about the safe. Did Slendy leave the combination there for Jay? If the Operator wanted Jay to have the tapes why wouldn't he have just let him find it earlier and not wait until it was almost too late?
Because he knew that the only real reason Jay was sticking around at the hotel and not wandering off to find more familiar ground was the safe in his room, and his obsession with trying to get it open. For whatever reason, I suspect he wanted Jay to talk with Jessica, to work something our - or perhaps figure something out. He could only let him have the tapes back once he was ready to let him leave. Ah, alright then. I guess that might make sense if Slendy did want Jay and Jessica to work out something... or something. | |
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Rythmear
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:35 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
- Rythmear wrote:
- ChaosGamma wrote:
I'm rather confused though about what you're saying about the safe. Did Slendy leave the combination there for Jay? If the Operator wanted Jay to have the tapes why wouldn't he have just let him find it earlier and not wait until it was almost too late?
Because he knew that the only real reason Jay was sticking around at the hotel and not wandering off to find more familiar ground was the safe in his room, and his obsession with trying to get it open. For whatever reason, I suspect he wanted Jay to talk with Jessica, to work something our - or perhaps figure something out. He could only let him have the tapes back once he was ready to let him leave.
Ah, alright then. I guess that might make sense if Slendy did want Jay and Jessica to work out something... or something. That's assuming that He was responsible for putting him there in the first place. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:16 am | |
| Rocky/TTA is also Smiledog  | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:38 pm | |
| XD nice
oh, i noticed something about entry 39 that i don't think anyone has mentioned yet: he says in the video that this happens "About a week after finding Alex in the abandoned house." this seems to imply that entry 35 was indeed the first time jay had seen alex
don't know how important that is in the grand scope of things, but i figured it was worth mentioning anyway | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:45 pm | |
| Ooh I missed that!
I can't see how #35 would have been the first time he'd seen him though, he wasn't surprised enough!! I'd have shat ten bricks if my friend just turned up like that after everything that happened. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 3:55 pm | |
| Hm... I don't know. I always just assumed that that was the first time Jay had seen him since I haven't seen anything that implies otherwise. Alex told him to be quiet and then Tim attacks them, he didn't really have any time to figure out what was going on. And then Alex breaks Tim's leg. I'd imagine Jay would be thinking about other things at that point...
Jay doesn't seem surprised by a lot of things I think. I wouldn't say it's unusual for him.
That dog terrifies me. Quite a lot. I really think that is Totheark. Because frankly, Totheark is creepy, and therefore he must be somebody scary, more scary than even the Operator. That dog is just perfect for the place of Totheark, I can see it all so clearly... | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:13 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
- Jay doesn't seem surprised by a lot of things I think. I wouldn't say it's unusual for him.
That's a good point actually. ...am I the only person not scared by that dog? XD *HARD AS NAILS, MAN* | |
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Mr. Jeebles
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:44 pm | |
| I think he met up with him the same day but before the house which is why you had a lack of surprise. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:37 pm | |
| And you guys doubted me when I said Alex was one of the villains. I think this just about confirms that Jay's "friend" has turned. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:14 pm | |
| Yeah I totally don't trust Alex, I think he's certainly up to something and knows way more than he lets on. I can't quite see Tim/Masky as a villain though.
And I love that dog, roofl. the creepypasta tied to it is so cheesy its great. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #39 Discussion Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:31 pm | |
| Looks a lot like the Operator, but i'm not sure if he's tall enough. I don't recall Jay ever being followed by the Operator, though, just Masky. | |
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