Caughtnotsleeping

britaki wrote:

Yeah, no.

They broke their bargain to make a cocky little point. I don't think we should give them shit.

Ok after reading what yasurc said on his last "friendly" visit, you are right.

I don't think yasurc has given us any reason whatsoever to make us want to do what they say. I don't think yasurc has given us any reason whatsoever to make us want to do what they say. I mean, we're all in this to help caught and natalie, not to play a mirrorperson's little games.

Xilaya wrote:

I don't think yasurc has given us any reason whatsoever to make us want to do what they say. I don't think yasurc has given us any reason whatsoever to make us want to do what they say. I mean, we're all in this to help caught and natalie, not to play a mirrorperson's little games.

You are completely right on that.
Even Help3r is way better than this selfish little bitchy brat.

It seems yasurc is a crappy little con-artist, and and there love of showing off has been there own down fall with us.

To me yasurc has 2 goals atm:

1. get stronger (due the rituals)
   
2. make roivas weaker (by trying to force us to work for him/them)
   

And he wanted to accomplish that while roivas is not "at home" because atm roivas seems to be to strong for them to take him down.

That doesn´t mean that roivas is stronger than them, but that their power is on par with roivas protecting powers atm (thanks to the butterflies ;D).

TailsFoxy wrote:

To me yasurc has 2 goals atm:

1. get stronger (due the rituals)
   
2. make roivas weaker (by trying to force us to work for him/them)
   

And he wanted to accomplish that while roivas is not "at home" because atm roivas seems to be to strong for them to take him down.

That doesn´t mean that roivas is stronger than them, but that their power is on par with roivas protecting powers atm (thanks to the butterflies ;D).

I'm inclined to believe that Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas because there is something in the Dark Place that basically tortures Roivas.
However, I'm also inclined to believe that if Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas then it's not by much for the exact reasons you illustrated.

ChewieV2 wrote:

I'm inclined to believe that Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas because there is something in the Dark Place that basically tortures Roivas.
However, I'm also inclined to believe that if Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas then it's not by much for the exact reasons you illustrated.

But that doesn´t make much sense!
Maybe they had more power than Roivas, but that was before this butterfly stuff happened and roivas is now definitly stronger than before and so the goals i pointed out would make much more sense when you look at the recent events. Yasurc would not act so forceful and kind of desperate, if it would be still way stronger than roivas. They only do all this because roivas is now strong enough to be a threat to them. Think about it, this all makes sense in the context of the recent happenings.

So looking at the wiki transcript for the original "_" video we noticed some stuff.


Description: WELCOM (nice spelling, bro) TO THE GAME. LETS PLAY

Welcome to the game, let's play.
Once we were alone
No one likes to be alone
We tried and [illegible]
All we wanted was a friend after all
And then could it be? Yes it was true!
Being alone wouldn't do.
We are so very few
Not anymore
Now we see you.


The video was posted roughly around the same time Mirrors claims to have been contacted by Papilio. It's a theory that Mirrors in fact posted the video but Roivas took it down.

The poem is very similar to things that have been said by Mirrors and possibly the Puppets.

Also worth noting, Help3r arrives less than two weeks after this Video.

I had a feeling that was relevant Sage.

I think as long as we're not doing things that could give it power (like rituals and stuff) either that should keep it at bay or it will act drastically. And even if it does act drastically, I still think it's in our best interest not to appease it. Anymore. Ever.

Obviously, it's going to try and find power in some alternate way if we stick to our guns but, at the very least, that won't be on our hands. (Or at least as on our hands as it already may be.) And if Mirrors continues to not improve their attitude, I don't think many others will want to throw their hat in with it either.

Now I know it may not just be a matter of not giving it anymore openings to screw with us but, until we know more about how to really fight it, that's the best defense we've got.

TailsFoxy wrote:

ChewieV2 wrote:

I'm inclined to believe that Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas because there is something in the Dark Place that basically tortures Roivas.
However, I'm also inclined to believe that if Yasurc is more powerful than Roivas then it's not by much for the exact reasons you illustrated.

But that doesn´t make much sense!
Maybe they had more power than Roivas, but that was before this butterfly stuff happened and roivas is now definitly stronger than before and so the goals i pointed out would make much more sense when you look at the recent events. Yasurc would not act so forceful and kind of desperate, if it would be still way stronger than roivas. They only do all this because roivas is now strong enough to be a threat to them. Think about it, this all makes sense in the context of the recent happenings.

I think it's probably a case of being more powerful on your own turf. The Dark Place seems to be Mirrors' place, they can kick the crap out of Roivas as much as they can manage in there, but not to point of what they seem to ultimately want.

Because Roivas is technically half over here in our world these days, they have at least an outline of a genuine form, and are connected to nearly over fifty human beings, all with their own sources of Light and power which get partially fed to Roivas frequently/constantly.

If Mirrors tries to mess with us or Roivas while Roivas is around normally, they get hardly anything. Seeming to succeed only when Roivas is talking about them specifically, which seems to allow them more room to claw at Roivas.

It would also potentially explain why we haven't seen Mirrors before now really.
Because Roivas has probably been here holding them back. But now Roivas is off protecting Natalie from God knows what, as well probably still keeping Showtime off the Butterflies back. They couldn't hold everyone/thing back at once AND protect Natalie, so they stopped shielding off Mirrors (probably the largest power drain) so much, perhaps thinking/hoping they wouldn't be bothered with us so much.

And this can all link in with why Roivas never even thought about protecting Natalie despite her going off to ally for them.

Because Roivas knew they wouldn't be able to hold everyone/thing down at once.
Which would/has put The Butterflies (the seemingly main priority to Roivas) in danger.

So in terms of power, I'd say Mirrors is the strongest. Without The butterflies (and sometimes even with), Roivas is a sitting duck. As Roivas is currently still in The Dark Place, and that seems to be Mirrors' play ground.

But if Mirrors tries to get through over here? Where it's partially Roivas' turf, and most certainly the humans who are powering them's turf, Roivas can just about fend them off for varying amounts of time, before they have to retreat and hide from them in The Dark Place somewhere.


Or at least, that's how I've mostly been looking at it.

Paradox wrote:

I think it's probably a case of being more powerful on your own turf. The Dark Place seems to be Mirrors' place, they can kick the crap out of Roivas as much as they can manage in there, but not to point of what they seem to ultimately want.

Because Roivas is technically half over here in our world these days, they have at least an outline of a genuine form, and are connected to nearly over fifty human beings, all with their own sources of Light and power which get partially fed to Roivas frequently/constantly.

If Mirrors tries to mess with us or Roivas while Roivas is around normally, they get hardly anything. Seeming to succeed only when Roivas is talking about them specifically, which seems to allow them more room to claw at Roivas.

It would also potentially explain why we haven't seen Mirrors before now really.
Because Roivas has probably been here holding them back. But now Roivas is off protecting Natalie from God knows what, as well probably still keeping Showtime off the Butterflies back. They couldn't hold everyone/thing back at once AND protect Natalie, so they stopped shielding off Mirrors (probably the largest power drain) so much, perhaps thinking/hoping they wouldn't be bothered with us so much.

And this can all link in with why Roivas never even thought about protecting Natalie despite her going off to ally for them.

Because Roivas knew they wouldn't be able to hold everyone/thing down at once.
Which would/has put The Butterflies (the seemingly main priority to Roivas) in danger.

So in terms of power, I'd say Mirrors is the strongest. Without The butterflies (and sometimes even with), Roivas is a sitting duck. As Roivas is currently still in The Dark Place, and that seems to be Mirrors' play ground.

But if Mirrors tries to get through over here? Where it's partially Roivas' turf, and most certainly the humans who are powering them's turf, Roivas can just about fend them off for varying amounts of time, before they have to retreat and hide from them in The Dark Place somewhere.


Or at least, that's how I've mostly been looking at it.

Wow this theory is really good

And this just happened, too. Uh-oh.

so yasurc came in chat and knows roivas code

http://littleglau.tumblr.com/post/29517352804/5-39-pm-yasurc

This just means Roivas will remain waiting to protect Natalie in the Alley, and will likely return once the tools are found.

This doesn't change much, it may have been that they knew already.
And even if they did not, it's likely they would have found out eventually.

The only thing I think it will likely effect, is how often Roivas will be able to talk to The Butterflies in future once they return.

Paradox wrote:

This just means Roivas will remain waiting to protect Natalie in the Alley, and will likely return once the tools are found.

This doesn't change much, it may have been that they knew already.
And even if they did not, it's likely they would have found out eventually.

The only thing I think it will likely effect, is how often Roivas will be able to talk to The Butterflies in future once they return.

Not sure just how much of an issue that will be, Dox.
I'm way more worried about whether or not we'll be able to hold Roivas back from going ape-shit on Mirrors and whether or not she'd get hurt doing it.

Yeah...

I'm kind of torn between worrying what 'Roivas Rage' would be like and what it may end up causing...

...and loving the idea of Roivas tearing Mirrors to pieces if they can.

We just got a Tiro visit! Logs pending.



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[Tiro being a player in the Caughtnotsleeping ARG that doesn't come into the chat very much.

Not an actual creator plot character.

The above was meant in jest. Heh.

Just to clear that up with anyone unfamiliar in order to avoid confusion.]

Going over lansing place 3 and noticed that whenever caught pans over a mirror it starts skipping. This happens just before helper pulls caught into the room. It occurs to me that helpers coat is the same shade and material as stabby puppet caughts. So whet if helper is the puppet.

There is more bird paraphernalia than I thought, including a book on biirds near the bed and a painting of a bird is the room helper was hiding in.

Paradox wrote:

Yeah...

I'm kind of torn between worrying what 'Roivas Rage' would be like and what it may end up causing...

...and loving the idea of Roivas tearing Mirrors to pieces if they can.

Roivas is powerful, but Roivas has no discipline.
If Roivas goes into a fight running on pure rage with no plan and no control she'll likely get herself hurt badly.

I was late to catch the update, but I saw it just now and I'm really anxious for what's to come of it. I feel like the most recent upload was back on par to what I've come to expect from CNS, and once again makes me nervous while passing dark alleys on my usual walks.

Wow, I've been away for what seems like forever. I was traveling a lot and didn't get to keep up with the goings on in the series. I just wanted to let you all know I'm back and might need help getting back up to speed. Spoilers welcome!!!

Oh, and what's up with Yasurc.... is it just Crusay messing with us? or did someone/something take his name just for kicks?

the wiki is being epically revamped and now has a time line with logs =3