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Ladnek
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| Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion  Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:25 am | |
| - Life wrote:
- Ladnek-I have a contradiction to your theory.
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Jay was lost in the woods and/or curled up in the fetal position when Sinclair dropped off Jay's camera back in Entry 43 or whatever. He and Alex both went back to the cars and found the camera-so here's the question-why would Jay go back to where he knows Slendy is, take back his camera, put it in his car, dump the jacket and mask, then curl up under a tree then wait for Alex to show up?
Sinclair could be a split personality. He didn't know what he was doing. And it didn't look like he was very far in the woods when Alex came for him. Also notice that when Alex got to the park, he went in the same direction as Sinclair. As for the oddly colored mask conundrum, they might have used a different mask to make it more visible on night vision, but clearly the same person. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:31 am | |
| When Alex first opened the window and saw the operator, when he walked outside, it looked like he was going to meet him. :/ | |
| | | | scarfan
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:30 am | |
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This is a chat/theory of mine…everyone thought there may possibly be two maskies but what about possibly two Sinclair?
Me: Think about it though, why would J want to kill Alex...well....never mind 'cause now I remember Operator getting in touch with J and he could possibly be Sinclair and not know it...Masky may have been recruiting when he was attacking him.
AvatarSatsuki: True but that does not explain #41 or 42
Me: *rewatched entries*
AvatarSatsuki: The time it would have taken to get the mask and hoodie, get the camera, WALK to the car, put the camera in it then ditch the mask and hoodie while Alex is in the woods? Then go back to being scared J? Not possible.
Me: Got a point there...but if there were two maskies couldn’t there possibly be two sinclairs?
AvatarSatsuki: But they haven’t figured if there is actually two maskies.
Me: well say there is (just thinking on this) If they think Tim had Brian work as Masky for a while and then you got two Maskies.... and then two Sinclairs could possibly be explained by J and Jesicca in the hotel cause they had similar stories and maybe they were recruited at the same time and there alternating?
AvatarSatsuki: Interesting, but by the time the hotel rolled around, Tim was all better.
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| | | | Rythmear
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:20 am | |
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Well, this seems to add evidence to my theory that Alex is actually evil - but changes his allegiance. Seems likely that the Slender Man is now his puppeteer, whether he realises it or not. Before I thought that Masky and the Operator worked together to try and track down Alex - but now it seems that Masky and Russell are working together against the Operator... and his new 'pawn'.
In the end, they both seem to be pretty bloody nasty - but where the masked twins seem to have a more hands-on approach, the Operator is more subtle.
However, it'll take some time for me to formulate a new proper line of thought...
I will say however, this episode was refreshing in that I did NOT see the ending coming. Anything I can't predict is all good in my books - and seeing Russell, Masky AND the Operator in one video was deeply satisfying. Well played.
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| | | | Karanoch
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:30 am | |
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The ending with distortion being caused by the anger rising in his voice makes me think he's more than just a puppet, perhaps hinting that Slendy and Alex have deeper, longer relationship than shown in the past, although hinted at in 43 and 44.
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| | | | ExorcistGamer
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:49 am | |
| - Karanoch wrote:
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The ending with distortion being caused by the anger rising in his voice makes me think he's more than just a puppet, perhaps hinting that Slendy and Alex have deeper, longer relationship than shown in the past, although hinted at in 43 and 44.
This is pretty good, it adds to everyone's curiosity about Alex telling that story in the woods to Jay, and adds to the enttry 37 clips. Onto the video itself: Damn that was mighty fun, plot is definitely kicking into high gear now. Really didn't expect the moments at the end. - Spoiler:
Onto theorizing, and boy am I suspicious. As pointed out, it seems more likely now that TTA is a group, but I think this also gives more hinting to the discussed theory that Jessica is Sinclair.
Think about it:
Jessica just mysteriously disappeared moments before Timasky attacked Jay in the hotel, all that was left was the code to Jay's safe.
We know TTA wants to use Jay for a reason, if she is Sinclair and TTA is a group then they were staging an act then.
Make it look like Jessica is gone, Jay gets the footage from his safe, Tim attacks Jay to make it seem like he kidnapped Jessica, Jay has to go on the run again thereby TTA has ensured that their plans can continue, maybe there is something in the footage that will only make sense to Jay. Therefore they need Jay to be constantly on the run and to go through the footage so that when he comes to a realisation, they also know.
Perhaps this so called Ark.
More evidence for this is of course the fact that it's implied in this entry that the two maskies are RUNNING from Slender Man, they're his enemy too.
This would explain why Jessica -if she is Sinclair- was scared in the hotel and kept looking in her room. It wasn't Tim she was worried about, it was Slender Man coming for her and Tim. That's why they had to chase Jay off too, whatever it is their up to, they can't let Slendy get in the way of it.
Of course this is merely my own suspicions and how TTA does appear to have been a manipulative force constantly, baiting and pushing Jay on and on.
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| | | | Rythmear
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:10 pm | |
| Okay, I've gotta get this off my chest... and it's not entirely relevant... - Spoiler:
This Hoodie fellow who you all bafflingly have started calling Sinclair, and who I insist is called Russell because it's actually believable and not WAY TOO CLASSY for a murdering psychopath... Who's to say it isn't Brian? Several entries mention him going missing, and we haven't seen him since entry 7. He was pretty f$#^n' involved in the filming process, and was Right There when the Operator was watching them. Maybe that's wrong... Maybe it's a totally new guy... But I really hope it's Brian... If ONLY so people will stop calling him that ridiculous name... There is only One true sinclair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fR-RDf0WM
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| | | | Mr. Jeebles
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:22 pm | |
| I don't think Alex is evil, I just think he's really fucking angry. Would you not be pissed off if you were dealing with this shit? Yea, Alex is acting pretty suspicious, but I think we'll get a reason for it later. Evil Alex would be a nice twist though and I'm definitely not against that happening. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:23 pm | |
| Rythmear: - Spoiler:
Who's to say that Hoodie/Sinclair has killed anyone in the first place? As far as it's made aware, the only person to have done some serious damage was Alex when he smashed TiMasky's leg in.
Point is, it could be anyone. And Sinclair is as good a name as any. Gender-neutral, in case they turn out to be male or female. I don't see the problem with the fan-name. I'm sure it'll drop if/when they're revealed to be whoever they are. Till then, proven to be unproven.
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:24 pm | |
| - Rythmear wrote:
- Okay, I've gotta get this off my chest... and it's not entirely relevant...
- Spoiler:
This Hoodie fellow who you all bafflingly have started calling Sinclair, and who I insist is called Russell because it's actually believable and not WAY TOO CLASSY for a murdering psychopath... Who's to say it isn't Brian? Several entries mention him going missing, and we haven't seen him since entry 7. He was pretty f$#^n' involved in the filming process, and was Right There when the Operator was watching them. Maybe that's wrong... Maybe it's a totally new guy... But I really hope it's Brian... If ONLY so people will stop calling him that ridiculous name... There is only One true sinclair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1fR-RDf0WM
I've been thinking about this myself. I brought it up on skype chat last night-of course my reason for believing this theory is a little bit meta: - Spoiler:
Masky is Tim-a previously established minor character. Therefore, logic would try and dictate, Sinclair/Blasky/Russell/Hoddie/whateverthefuckyouwantocallhim is a previously established minor character. Of course this leaves us with two people who fit that criteria: Brian (of course) and Seth (the guy that Alex mentioned a couple times and only showed up in Entry 21 or around there). The real question is: who is it of those two?
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| | | | Mr. Jeebles
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:30 pm | |
| - Life wrote:
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Masky is Tim-a previously established minor character. Therefore, logic would try and dictate, Sinclair/Blasky/Russell/Hoddie/whateverthefuckyouwantocallhim is a previously established minor character. Of course this leaves us with two people who fit that criteria: Brian (of course) and Seth (the guy that Alex mentioned a couple times and only showed up in Entry 21 or around there). The real question is: who is it of those two?
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You can't rule out Amy, Jessica, or even Sarah. There's a chance it's one of them. In my opinion though, Seth is dead. I really don't know what to think about Brian but I think he's dead as well.
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| | | | Hallow Sleeper
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:59 pm | |
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If...IF what the two masked figures are running away from is in fact Slendy...This begs the question. Why would Slender Man help Alex? Also if Masky/Tim is in fact not being controlled by Slender Man, what is Slendy doing to Alex exactly?
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| | | | Karanoch
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:11 pm | |
| - Mr. Jeebles wrote:
- Life wrote:
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Masky is Tim-a previously established minor character. Therefore, logic would try and dictate, Sinclair/Blasky/Russell/Hoddie/whateverthefuckyouwantocallhim is a previously established minor character. Of course this leaves us with two people who fit that criteria: Brian (of course) and Seth (the guy that Alex mentioned a couple times and only showed up in Entry 21 or around there). The real question is: who is it of those two?
- Spoiler:
You can't rule out Amy, Jessica, or even Sarah. There's a chance it's one of them. In my opinion though, Seth is dead. I really don't know what to think about Brian but I think he's dead as well.
- Spoiler:
I may be stupid here, since I don't remember her name ever being said, what about that girl Alex was shown living with in Entry 26? Since clearly Slendy was still trying to kill Alex (or at least get him alone), and Slendy goes after ones closest to you.
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| | | | CheckersValentine
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:36 pm | |
| I still think - Spoiler:
Alex is evil. Note how he just stands there while slendy pops up at the end. While the two maskies flee. Not that Tim and Sinclair are exactly the rockstar superheroes of humanity, but they don't seem to exactly approach slenderman the same way. Although it would be curious to consider the fact that they might all be working for slendy, and just not like eachother. Not that I think that's what's happening, it would just be an interesting twist.
I couldn't quite take this episode as seriously as you guys though as all I could hear in my head the whole time was "Damn kids on my lawn again. Come back here you hooligans!" | |
| | | | ChaosGamma
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:49 pm | |
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I think I'd go with at least Seth being dead. Him being with Alex in that final tape somehow just makes me think that he's gone. Brian and Sarah... eh, I don't really know what to think. I did have a theory earlier that Jay interviewing Tim about the film is what got him involved again and the others aren't back because they've forgotten/are dead, though that would mean someone else would have had to have been TTA originally. I'm still sticking with Jessica, though I think Amy is very plausible as well. Both of them have been important this season and the original film's crew haven't been brought up at all I don't think. Not that that rules them out, I just think it makes them less likely.
The Operator has his own goals and nobody else has any idea what's really going on. Basically I think that's what it is. He's manipulating everyone for his own ends and everybody is just trying to fight him in their own way. He's especially interested in Alex, so Alex is the one that's been affected most.
New random thought I just had. I'm wondering if Tim was trying to find Alex at the beginning to get away from the Operator? Since it appeared in Entry 26 as though Alex had managed to escape. Though I'm not sure how Tim would have known that, so... yeah.
Dammit, I'm rambling. Too much shit I can't keep straight. Also, Exorcist's theory above, I do like that, I think that could make a lot of sense.
EDIT: In reply to Checkers: - Spoiler:
Are we sure that Alex actually saw Slendy though? Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't think he actually noticed him there. Or alternatively, it could be Slendy fucking with him and not actually Alex' fault.
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| | | | Mr. Jeebles
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:23 pm | |
| - Karanoch wrote:
- Mr. Jeebles wrote:
- Life wrote:
- Spoiler:
Masky is Tim-a previously established minor character. Therefore, logic would try and dictate, Sinclair/Blasky/Russell/Hoddie/whateverthefuckyouwantocallhim is a previously established minor character. Of course this leaves us with two people who fit that criteria: Brian (of course) and Seth (the guy that Alex mentioned a couple times and only showed up in Entry 21 or around there). The real question is: who is it of those two?
- Spoiler:
You can't rule out Amy, Jessica, or even Sarah. There's a chance it's one of them. In my opinion though, Seth is dead. I really don't know what to think about Brian but I think he's dead as well.
- Spoiler:
I may be stupid here, since I don't remember her name ever being said, what about that girl Alex was shown living with in Entry 26? Since clearly Slendy was still trying to kill Alex (or at least get him alone), and Slendy goes after ones closest to you.
Yes, I did mention her in the above spoiler, her name is Amy. I also think we can stop using spoilers now, it's been long enough since the episode came out. | |
| | | | CheckersValentine
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:15 pm | |
| - ChaosGamma wrote:
EDIT: In reply to Checkers:
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Are we sure that Alex actually saw Slendy though? Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't think he actually noticed him there. Or alternatively, it could be Slendy fucking with him and not actually Alex' fault.
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Yeah but look at how many times now he has been encountering the operator without too much trepidation. In his room, in his apartment, in the woods that one time... Slendy is getting closer and closer and Alex seems to care less and less. I don't know if he saw Slendy this time, maybe not, (although the maskies running would seem like a pretty big hint to me to get the hell outta there). Whether or not he was initially working with slendy, or is fully at this point, it seems inevitable that slendy is either going to hallow him, or kill him. That's just my theory anyway.
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| | | | runjump360
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:42 pm | |
| Alex: *O-O* "YOUR LATE!!!"
Slender Man: "Slender man is never late, Alex Kralie, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to."
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HUGZLEZ!!! | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:10 pm | |
| - CheckersValentine wrote:
- ChaosGamma wrote:
EDIT: In reply to Checkers:
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Are we sure that Alex actually saw Slendy though? Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't think he actually noticed him there. Or alternatively, it could be Slendy fucking with him and not actually Alex' fault.
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Yeah but look at how many times now he has been encountering the operator without too much trepidation. In his room, in his apartment, in the woods that one time... Slendy is getting closer and closer and Alex seems to care less and less. I don't know if he saw Slendy this time, maybe not, (although the maskies running would seem like a pretty big hint to me to get the hell outta there). Whether or not he was initially working with slendy, or is fully at this point, it seems inevitable that slendy is either going to hallow him, or kill him. That's just my theory anyway.
True, true. I think what I was more leaning towards was that Alex isn't necessarily willingly working for the Operator. It seems to me that Alex is possibly already hallowed, or that he's just having his memories seriously fucked around with or something. As we've seen, the Operator does seem to have some special interest in Alex so it may not be him doing these things himself, rather the Operator leading him into doing things. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:37 pm | |
| Hmm. Okay, going back to the last TTA response, it asked "But who are you?"
What if the video was aimed more at Alex than Jay? Like... asking him "Who are you? You're not being normal, Alex."
I thought of that because of this talk of Alex becoming hallowed. | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:57 pm | |
| I'm still not sure on all of this myself. Perhaps I should go and read some of the theories made from older entries and see if that helps piece things together better... | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:51 pm | |
| This reminds me of entry 35...I think? I thougt Alex killed Masky! There are probably more! They look like people! Maybe they are...but controlled by Slender man... | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:38 pm | |
| *Is piecing these theories together with Scarfan.*
Alright, let's see...
the TTA group is using J to get to the Ark, and Operator is using Alex to stop them. Two beings that can not get the Ark themselfs use two unfortunate people that neither would suspect not only each other, but themselves. But that would lead to a much bigger picture than we once thought.
What is the Ark? Is it information or a physical thing? | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:20 pm | |
| FYI: Contrary to some of my earlier posts, this one will be using my own speech patterns instead of trying to sound all eloquent and stuff.
JEEZUS H CHRIST IN A CHICKEN BASKET!!! Okay so Sinclair and Masky (that's who I think it is) stalking Alex, and/or intentionally provoking him to get him where they want him (given the fact that Sinclair disappears and just waits for Alex). It does seem like it's Sinclair at the begining and Masky is just waiting for the two to show up.
Alex has been turned and I think Masky and Sinclair know that their time is running out to use Alex to free them somehow (assuming the crap out of this piece of cannon). Masky is Tim and is pissed at Alex for dragging him into this mess (and... you know... breaking his leg). Sinclair is just being true neutral in the corner as Masky gets his revenge, when suddenly Slendy comes in because he still needs his little Slendette.
I don't think Sinclair is Jay, for what Life said. And I do think that it was Slendy that scared away the masks. I don't think though that the masks are TTA, at least not currently. I think was happened was that Sinclair and Masky have simply teamed up this one time. Sinclair is still non-threatening, but Masky is brutal as ever. I think that Sinclair is either Jessica or Brian, leaning towards Jessica because it would be good for plot convenience (I don't know).
Alex is most definetly on Slendy's side now. I'd say he's right about the stage that Tim was when Jay interviewed him, so Alex could don a mask at anytime now, or become one with Slendy in some way/shape/or form.
Very good episode from the MH guys though | |
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| | Subject: Re: Entry #45 Discussion Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:04 am | |
| But, wait wait wait. Is it sinclair? He looks a little different. Can someone get some screen cap comparisons here?
Is it someone else or did the just change up Sinclair's style a bit?
Am I insane or what? | |
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