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+12Swallowedglass ThR0uGhTheG@tE Todesfurcht eudaemon Auralee timeobserver2013 Tiro1000 level100nidoking NearTheEnd UncleDark Magnus96 The Angry Scholar 16 posters | |
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Magnus96 Untainted
Posts : 16 Current Win Points : 3 Join date : 2014-03-22 Age : 27 Location : United States
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:58 am | |
| This is just upsetting. With all this crap happening, it will be a major blow to the mythos and people who create series.
I just hope it doesn't get worse from here.(but it probably will) | |
| | | NearTheEnd Blackout
Posts : 541 Current Win Points : 217 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 30 Location : Cat Planet
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Wed Jun 11, 2014 5:05 pm | |
| Yeah, apparently a third case has arisen. Jesus Christ. And to reply to you, Angry Scholar, no. I personally don't believe it was inevitable. Especially the cases with the kids. Parents can take steps to prevent kids from seeing things that could be impressionable to them. Then again, to parents, Slenderman is a new thing. I mean, is it okay? Is it not okay? Just gotta go with your better judgement. As for the man in Las Vegas, he probably had a mental illness of some sort. And everytime a shooting or what have you happens, I always think to this: Why is mental illness so taboo? Well, its not exactly taboo. But it still has a stigma with it. People with mental illnesses are, to a lot of the world, weird and crazy. People with mental illnesses are Batman villains. Also trying to get access to getting mental health treatment in the US is harder than pulling teeth. Kind of literally. A lot of healthcare plans don't have mental health included in them. This is wrong, wrong, wrong. People should have ready and open access to mental health facilities. People shouldn't stereotype people with mental illnesses. If you have the flu, you go to the doctor. If you have disturbing thoughts or actions, you brush it off? This isn't a good system.
Tl;DR: Watch ya damn kids when they on the interwebz and mental health is something you need to be checking on too. | |
| | | ThR0uGhTheG@tE Untainted
Posts : 5 Current Win Points : 2 Join date : 2014-04-04 Age : 34 Location : Where am I?
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:15 pm | |
| NearTheEnd, I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment of the state of mental illness treatment and how it is viewed by society. As someone who deals with Panic Disorder (an anxiety disorder characterized by recurring panic attacks) It is difficult to find help. I know this all too well from personal experience. As for the attacks I believe that, as unfortunate as it sounds, it was inevitable. As eudaemon pointed out, the Slendy Mythos does deal with a lot of characters who are experiencing powerlessness and helplessness. It could certainly be relatable to those on the edge. Personally, I feel the attacks are disgusting and my heart goes out to the families of the victims. I think the mythos could be in for some rough times in the months to come. It could easily suffer from some of the same problems that fell upon D&D during the 80's. | |
| | | NearTheEnd Blackout
Posts : 541 Current Win Points : 217 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 30 Location : Cat Planet
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:11 pm | |
| - ThR0uGhTheG@tE wrote:
- NearTheEnd, I agree whole-heartedly with your assessment of the state of mental illness treatment and how it is viewed by society. As someone who deals with Panic Disorder (an anxiety disorder characterized by recurring panic attacks) It is difficult to find help. I know this all too well from personal experience.
As for the attacks I believe that, as unfortunate as it sounds, it was inevitable. As eudaemon pointed out, the Slendy Mythos does deal with a lot of characters who are experiencing powerlessness and helplessness. It could certainly be relatable to those on the edge. Personally, I feel the attacks are disgusting and my heart goes out to the families of the victims. I think the mythos could be in for some rough times in the months to come. It could easily suffer from some of the same problems that fell upon D&D during the 80's. I've seen a lot of people relate this to the D&D predicament. And its a good example to use. And yes, eudaeman and yourself are right in the sense that we do portray characters that sort of mimic how children that age are feeling. Its a no-brainer why kids are drawn to this sort of thing. But I still stand by the notion that parents need to supervise. I understand Slenderman is a new thing and parents aren't exactly sure what it is or how it will effect their kids. But they need to take initiative and look into it themselves. If they find their children looking at creepypastas or watching various vlogs, perhaps they should look into it. Read up on it themselves. And if they think its not suitable for their children, then block those websites. Its not that hard to do. Maybe they can find a way around it, but you have to at least try. And if you really think your child isn't stable enough to handle those kinds of things, fight tooth and nail to get them some mental help. Like I said, I know getting mental treatment is incredibly hard. But as a parent, you have to do whatever it takes for your children's well-being. (I hope you know I'm using "you" as a general term, not you in particular.) | |
| | | Swallowedglass Untainted
Posts : 34 Current Win Points : 3 Join date : 2014-06-22 Age : 25 Location : Slenderverse Cafeteria, the second table from the left.
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:19 am | |
| I'm expecting the media to start a huge war against the community, the Creepypasta wikia, Slenderverse itself and of course the Slenderman. Everything. As a teenager myself I would say the moms should talk to their children more, and keep an eye on what they are doing in the internet. My parents have always been really strict about my computer and internet usage, and they want to hear about what's on my mind. I believe that if every parent would do this, (even though it feels really annoying sometimes) nothing like this would happen/would have happened. I could have been that girl who stabbed her mum; I'm suffering from mental disorders (mainly anxiety but I'm not gonna talk about it, personal stuff.) and I sometimes have trouble distinguishing in between fact and fiction. If my parents wouldn't talk to me daily, I could have easily been one of those girls. | |
| | | xyzombie Taken
Posts : 443 Current Win Points : 79 Join date : 2011-11-13 Age : 34 Location : Wooded South-Eastern United States
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:26 am | |
| Most of what I wanted to say has been addressed. I know it sounds awful, but I'm glad to see some of the major figureheads of the mythos going ahead in full force; Marble Hornets producing entries and Slender the Arrival producing DLC (soon to come). I was expecting a bit more of a set back in both of those outlets, and am glad to see that it was not the case. These events are undoubtedly tragedies, however, it is good that the two main stabbing victims did not die, and that the media doesn't seem to be shoveling blame on the creators and producers. Certainly they'll continue to have their questions. Questions that could probably be answered by checking here or even Google. What I'm saying is, at this point, where all this stands, it could have gone a lot worse in a lot different directions. I'm grateful for this community and that of creepy pasta being as strong as they are. | |
| | | Swallowedglass Untainted
Posts : 34 Current Win Points : 3 Join date : 2014-06-22 Age : 25 Location : Slenderverse Cafeteria, the second table from the left.
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:33 am | |
| Also I agree with the first comment, I wondered why something like this hadn't happened already. No offense but I kinda saw something like this coming. of course it shocked me and I did not wish for it to happen, and I feel very sorry for the victim and her family, but still. And the second case is probably just trying to provoke more hate on the community. | |
| | | Keiken Untainted
Posts : 7 Current Win Points : 0 Join date : 2013-07-26 Age : 29
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:42 am | |
| I know it may be a little late for this but, back when the post was created I remembered about a blog that pretty much described the reality/fantasy line blurring situation. I couldn't remind the name of the blog back then, but I found it by coincidence today. At the end of the blog things get surprisely wrecked.. Well here is the link, if you are still interested in the topic of course: http://heartheouroborossing.blogspot.mx/2011/07/i-call-upon-thee.htmlInteresting how fiction can somehow explain non fiction sometimes. | |
| | | Todesfurcht Observer
Posts : 180 Current Win Points : 69 Join date : 2012-06-20 Age : 26 Location : Your closet
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:39 pm | |
| [Warning Vent/Rant Below] May upset some users.
- Spoiler:
You guys really think locking everything up and giving restrictions to your children is honestly going to resolve these issues? You're wrong.
I say less protection from the monsters, and more understanding. Give the children knowledge, don't lock it away for them to find later and hurt themselves. Sheltering them from the truth does nothing. Your children can't mature and learn without the chance. If you take that away from them what kind of parent are you? You've done nothing to prepare them for what's out there. I see it on the news everyday, parents are already beginning to whine about Halloween decorations, and they continue to whine about video games, TV, and movies.
Is this really the kind of future you guys want for our future generations?
Slenderman should allowed for all ages. Use him as a boogeymonster to keep your children asleep on Christmas Eve. Introduce your children to the mythos yourself, be there for them. Learn everything you can and always be open to questions. Isn't that what parenting is? Knowledge carried down to the next generation? ...Shouldn't we bring that back?
I see my long-distant girlfriend about five hours every day if that, and that is because her parents are too controlling of what she's doing. They wont let her do what makes her happy. Sitting at sixteen, they're still getting on her ass about her choices, dreams, and wants. Her parents hate me, because they themselves were isolated. They think I'm some 60 year old man because of what the news makes of this god forsaken internet. They're afraid of their child not being able to tell the difference between reality and fantasy because we keep telling them to be afraid. The media wants you to be afraid. The internet was where I learned that cartoons were drawn, and if it wasn't for that I'd still be trying to practice stunts from Ed Edd and Eddy, I'm sure. Why are these Slenderman stabbings all occurring at once? It's not a coincidence, in fact the girl who stabbed her mom? It wasn't confirmed that she was a Slenderman fan. Oh and that guy who apparently killed in a Slenderman costume? Wrong again, he was just Slenderman from Halloween about two years before.
Don't let the media destroy something you once loved, had, or longed for.
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| | | Swallowedglass Untainted
Posts : 34 Current Win Points : 3 Join date : 2014-06-22 Age : 25 Location : Slenderverse Cafeteria, the second table from the left.
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:11 am | |
| - Todesfurcht wrote:
- [Warning Vent/Rant Below]
May upset some users.
- Spoiler:
You guys really think locking everything up and giving restrictions to your children is honestly going to resolve these issues? You're wrong.
I say less protection from the monsters, and more understanding. Give the children knowledge, don't lock it away for them to find later and hurt themselves. Sheltering them from the truth does nothing. Your children can't mature and learn without the chance. If you take that away from them what kind of parent are you? You've done nothing to prepare them for what's out there. I see it on the news everyday, parents are already beginning to whine about Halloween decorations, and they continue to whine about video games, TV, and movies.
Is this really the kind of future you guys want for our future generations?
Slenderman should allowed for all ages. Use him as a boogeymonster to keep your children asleep on Christmas Eve. Introduce your children to the mythos yourself, be there for them. Learn everything you can and always be open to questions. Isn't that what parenting is? Knowledge carried down to the next generation? ...Shouldn't we bring that back?
I see my long-distant girlfriend about five hours every day if that, and that is because her parents are too controlling of what she's doing. They wont let her do what makes her happy. Sitting at sixteen, they're still getting on her ass about her choices, dreams, and wants. Her parents hate me, because they themselves were isolated. They think I'm some 60 year old man because of what the news makes of this god forsaken internet. They're afraid of their child not being able to tell the difference between reality and fantasy because we keep telling them to be afraid. The media wants you to be afraid. The internet was where I learned that cartoons were drawn, and if it wasn't for that I'd still be trying to practice stunts from Ed Edd and Eddy, I'm sure. Why are these Slenderman stabbings all occurring at once? It's not a coincidence, in fact the girl who stabbed her mom? It wasn't confirmed that she was a Slenderman fan. Oh and that guy who apparently killed in a Slenderman costume? Wrong again, he was just Slenderman from Halloween about two years before.
Don't let the media destroy something you once loved, had, or longed for.
I agree, but like I said earlier, parents should know what their children are doing, Not neccessarily deny it from them. It's not okay to stalk their children, but they should talk to their children more in order to find out what they are thinking and feeling like. At least that is what works for me.. even though I dont talk much, I still talk to them and if something worries me, I can tell my parents about it. My parents are strict, but they don't deny every single thing from me. | |
| | | Todesfurcht Observer
Posts : 180 Current Win Points : 69 Join date : 2012-06-20 Age : 26 Location : Your closet
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:43 am | |
| Pretty much sums up the whole situation: - Spoiler:
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| | | The Angry Scholar Untainted
Posts : 26 Current Win Points : 1 Join date : 2013-04-16 Age : 42 Location : Indiana, USA
| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:49 pm | |
| Wow, thank you all for the thoughtful responses. It's definitely a complex issue. It seems like there's a general sense that mental health and mental health care are key issues here, and that most people here on SN are very appreciative of the Slender Man community. Is that right? Tomorrow is the next court appearance of the girls accused in the Wisconsin stabbing. I imagine there will be some more media buzz afterward. Also, I wanted to let everyone know that there's additional information about the study in the first post of this thread. You can also view the study information sheet here (pw: slenderman2014) . Edit (9/12/2014): About a week ago, as you may have heard, there was another tragic event which was linked (by the media) to Slender Man. (The story is here: www.wtsp.com/story/news/local/2014/09/04/pasco-siblings-fire-slenderman/15067189/. The supposed connection to Slender Man comes about halfway through the article.). What does everyone think about this? | |
| | | JxMstr Untainted
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| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:20 pm | |
| It is a true tragedy. Personally, I believe that it is a mixture of parent's failing to develop a strong line between reality and Internet Lore, a desire to kill or harm someone, whether it be directed at one particular person or just pure sadism, and maybe a bit of twisted Master and the obedient servant, not unlike The Operator and Masky's relationship. | |
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| Subject: Re: Slender Man in the News Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:24 pm | |
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